Interview about Our Lady of Good Success with Br Andre Marie on Reconquest Radio Program

Introduction and Guest Introduction (00:00:00 - 00:01:16)

Brother Andre Marie welcomes listeners to Reconquest and the Crusade Radio Network, providing website and email contact information. He introduces episode 452, focusing on Our Lady of Good Success, and welcomes his guest, Kathleen Heckenkamp, co-foundress of the apostolate of Our Lady of Good Success. Brother Andre Marie expresses appreciation for Kathleen's participation.

Overview of Our Lady of Good Success Apparitions (00:01:16 - 00:02:49)

Brother Andre Marie notes that while some in the traditional Catholic world have superficial knowledge of the Our Lady of Good Success apparitions (possibly from articles in publications like The Remnant or Catholic Family News), he aims to provide a more thorough introduction. He explains that the apparitions occurred between 1594 and 1634 in Quito, Ecuador, to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres, a Conceptionist sister and Spaniard who helped found a Franciscan monastery there. Our Lady appeared under the title of Nuestra Señora del Buen Suceso (Our Lady of Good Success).

Quito Apparitions and Messages of Our Lady of Good Success (00:02:49 - 00:05:00)

Brother Andre Marie initiates a discussion about the apparitions and messages of Our Lady of Good Success in Quito, focusing on the events themselves, the life of Mother Mariana de Jesus, and the relevance of the messages to the present day. Kathleen Heckenkamp begins her response by describing the arrival of Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres and five founding mothers in Quito via ship. She recounts a miraculous story from their first voyage, detailing a terrifying storm during which the nuns, fearing death, offered themselves as victims. A seven-headed serpent emerged from the water, intending to prevent the formation of the convent. The narrative ends mid-sentence, leaving the outcome of the encounter unresolved.

The Story of Mother Mariana: Perseverance in Faith (00:05:00 - 00:07:07)

Kathleen Heckenkamp recounts the story of Mother Mariana, emphasizing the theme of perseverance in faith. The narrative begins with a crisis faced by the convent, where a seemingly insurmountable challenge threatened their existence. However, through prayer and faith, Our Lady and the Christ child intervened, saving the nuns and allowing them to continue their work. This event sets the overarching theme of the story: despite despair and seemingly impossible odds, unwavering faith leads to divine intervention. The story then details Mother Mariana's journey, starting at age 13, including a six-week perilous journey through the jungle to Quito to establish the foundation. Heckenkamp highlights that Mariana began her religious life young, raised in the monastery by her aunt, and even before leaving Spain, showed signs of exceptional holiness, including extended prayer and receiving communion at the unusually young age of nine.

Early Life and Visions of Maria de Agreda (00:07:07 - 00:08:48)

Kathleen Heckenkamp describes Maria de Agreda's early life, including locutions and visions from a young age. Our Lady instructed Mariana to offer her life as a virgin soul for the Lord, a promise she made at a young age. Many signs pointed to her virtuous nature. Upon taking her vows, Our Lord and Our Lady appeared, and she received a ring, signifying her spiritual marriage. Her visions continued throughout her life until 1634, with a decrease in frequency before 1594 as she prepared for her mission as a victim soul for the 20th century. She held various roles within the convent, including porter, novice mistress, and mother abbess (three or four times), always maintaining humility and being sought out by the nuns for prayers and counsel. Her holiness was recognized by all. Brother Andre Marie then begins a question to connect some dots.

Maria de Agreda's Order and Connections (00:08:48 - 00:09:26)

Brother Andre Marie asks a question to connect information, noting that Maria de Agreda belonged to the Conceptionist order, a Franciscan cloistered community founded by St. Beatrice de Silva in Spain. He mentions Venerable Maria d'Agreda as a famous nun of that order and recounts a recent visit to Agreda, Spain, where he prayed.

Venerable Mariana's Life and Visions (00:09:27 - 00:11:10)

Brother Andre Marie and Kathleen Heckenkamp discuss the life of Venerable Mariana, a Spanish nun who traveled to Quito, Ecuador to help found a Conceptionist Monastery . They detail her early life, including a journey at age 13 with her aunt, the founding abbess, and other nuns. The conversation highlights Mariana's exemplary religious life, the onset of her visions, and the numerous hardships she endured ("many crosses"). Kathleen explains that Mariana's visions included seeing the sins of the world and her subsequent role as a victim soul, accepting God's request to atone for blasphemy, impiety, and impurity. The discussion emphasizes the intensity and significance of Mariana's visions and her acceptance of a life of suffering for the sake of others.

Our Lady's Messages and Prophecies (00:11:12 - 00:13:26)

Kathleen Heckenkamp recounts a story about a nun who died but came back to life after accepting a message. One of the last and most important messages from Our Lady was received on February 2nd, 1634. The nun, while praying before the tabernacle, experienced the tabernacle light going out, a frightening event she initially attributed to her own actions. However, Our Lady revealed that this was a sign of something significant to come. The extinguishing of the light symbolized a time when Christ would feel absent or hidden. Our Lady explained that this absence would be due to widespread heresies and moral corruption in the 20th and 21st centuries, leading to the loss of many souls and a degradation of society, mirroring current events.

Predicted societal collapse and its religious implications (00:13:26 - 00:15:38)

Kathleen Heckenkamp discusses a prediction of societal collapse, citing four main reasons. The first is a prolonged period of hardship and suffering for the faithful, described as a "test of faith," leading to eventual restoration if they persevere. The second reason is a decline in religious observance, resulting in widespread indifference and impacting the world due to the loss of monasteries and convents offering intercessory prayer. The third reason is the spread of "the spirit of impurity," leading to a loss of innocence in children and a subsequent decline in vocations to the priesthood and religious life, ultimately hindering the celebration of Mass. Finally, the fourth reason is the significant influence of the Masonic sect, secretly infiltrating the Church and causing considerable damage. The overall tone expresses concern and sadness about the predicted consequences.

Concerns about the Catholic Church (00:15:38 - 00:17:41)

Kathleen Heckenkamp expresses concerns about the state of the Catholic Church, citing the damaging actions of individuals like McGarrick and others in positions of power. She describes the resulting harm to children, seminarians, and the laity, leading to discouragement and spiritual struggles. She mentions the negative influence of Masonic sex abuse and emphasizes the importance of continued prayer and seeking divine help. Finally, she highlights the negligence of wealthy lay people in providing necessary financial support to struggling religious communities and organizations, urging them to donate to worthy causes to alleviate suffering.

Discussion on Blasphemy and Divine Retribution (00:17:41 - 00:18:07)

Kathleen Heckenkamp relates a news blurb about the Golden Globes awards ceremony being blasphemous and mocking God, followed by the occurrence of fires a few days later. She suggests a possible connection between the perceived blasphemy and the subsequent fires as a strange coincidence. Brother Andre Marie acknowledges hearing about the events.

Reconquest Radio Show Introduction and Our Lady of Good Success (00:18:08 - 00:19:20)

Brother Andre Marie introduces the radio show "Reconquest" on the Crusade Radio Network, episode 452, featuring Kathleen Heckenkamp as a guest. The discussion centers on Our Lady of Good Success, her message, the visionary, pilgrimages, and related topics. Brother Andre Marie revisits five reasons for the extinguishing of the tabernacle light during a vision on February 2nd, 1634 (Feast of the Purification), noting it was the 40th anniversary of her first apparition. Kathleen Heckenkamp clarifies that the date is actually close to the 490th anniversary of her death, which is January 16th, the day of the recording. Brother Andre Marie comments on the providential timing, unplanned as it was. He expresses his intention to unpack some of the discussed points.

The Prophecy and its Implications (00:19:24 - 00:21:43)

Brother Andre Marie discussed a prophecy foretelling the extinguishing of the lamp, citing reasons including the influence of Masons and secret sects within the Church and the invasion of evil into childhood innocence, leading to a loss of priestly vocations. He connected this to the sins of individuals like McCarrick, referencing a scripture about the severity of such actions. Kathleen Heckenkamp agreed, reflecting on the worsening situation over the past 25 years, initially doubting the prophecy's severity. She shared her personal experience of adopting four special needs children from Columbia, highlighting the abuse and neglect they suffered, illustrating the prophecy's grim reality of children being harmed, even through neglect, and the alarming disappearance of children at the border, citing a figure of 360,000.

The Severity of the Situation and its Implications (00:21:43 - 00:22:18)

Kathleen Heckenkamp expresses her shock at the worsening situation, comparing it to a gradual unveiling of a terrible truth. She believes the situation is far worse than initially imagined and anticipates further revelations in the future, as more information continues to surface each year.

Prophecies Fulfilled and Their Significance (00:22:18 - 00:23:51)

Brother Andre Marie discusses a message received on February 2nd, 1634, revealing three prophecies: the proclamation of the Immaculate Conception during a time of strong church attacks and the imprisonment of the Vicar (referring to Blessed Pius IX); the definition of the dogma of faith of the transit or assumption (the bodily assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary into heaven). He highlights the fulfillment of these prophecies, emphasizing their significance for Conceptionist nuns, as the Immaculate Conception is central to their order. He also notes Our Lord's reiteration of his presence with the Church until the end of time, adding a sense of reassurance despite the challenging circumstances.

Brother Andre Marie's Interpretation of Apparition (00:23:51 - 00:24:47)

Brother Andre Marie discusses an apparition, emphasizing its prediction of strong attacks against the faith but ultimately its unconquerable nature. He highlights the divine promise of angelic legions for its defense and triumph, followed by a strong condemnation of heretics and those who doubt the mysteries concerning Our Lord and His Mother. He connects this to the community's raison d'être, the defense of "extra ecclesiae, nulla salus," reinforcing the belief that those outside the Church are severed from the truth. He concludes by asking if there are other significant aspects of the apparition to consider.

Kathleen Heckenkamp's Insights on the Apparition (00:25:06 - 00:25:43)

Kathleen Heckenkamp responds by focusing on the explanation for the lamp's extinguishing in the apparition. She highlights the passage describing a small number of hidden souls who will preserve the faith and virtues, enduring unspeakable cruelty and prolonged martyrdom. Many will die from their suffering, and those sacrificing themselves for church and country will be considered martyrs. She expresses that this passage is encouraging to her.

Maintaining Hope and the Significance of Candlemas (00:25:49 - 00:28:22)

Kathleen Heckenkamp reflects on the importance of maintaining hope amidst challenges, suggesting that Our Lady's messages offer comfort and reassurance. She emphasizes the concise and hopeful nature of these messages, highlighting Our Lady's awareness of suffering and the promise of divine support. Brother Andre Marie then introduces the upcoming Novena in Quito, starting January 24th and culminating on Candlemas Day (February 2nd). He inquires about the significance of this feast day in relation to the messages. Kathleen connects Candlemas to the presentation of Christ in the Temple, symbolizing his public revelation as the light of the Gentiles. She mentions the use of candles in the celebration and draws parallels to mystical accounts, such as those by Mary of  Agreda and Anne Catherine Emmerich, describing processions of angels accompanying Christ to the temple. She mentions her own incomplete reading of Mary of Agreda's writings and reflects on her younger self when she first got married.

Kathleen's Reading of "Mary of Agreda" and the Feast Day in Quito (00:28:22 - 00:30:07)

Kathleen Heckenkamp recounts her initial reluctance to read "Mary of Agreda" a four-volume book, despite her husband's encouragement. She was hesitant due to its length and some negative feedback she'd encountered. However, she eventually became interested through Our Lady Good Success and after reading "The Admirable Life of Mother Mariana," realizing its spiritual similarities to "Mary orf Agreda." She then regretted not reading it sooner. The conversation shifts to the feast day in Quito, describing a large procession with thousands of participants at 4:00 AM. Kathleen explains that historical Quito is small, with the poor residing in the south, while wealthier residents moved to northern Quito, resulting in a large influx of people for the feast day, arriving by taxi.

Vivid Remembrance of a Religious Feast (00:30:07 - 00:31:41)

Kathleen Heckenkamp recounts a powerful experience at a religious feast, describing the overwhelming number of attendees—a stark contrast to the usual turnout. She vividly recalls the scene: a packed church, a procession, fireworks, and a band playing at 4:00 AM. This experience left a lasting impression, highlighting the vibrant faith of the community. She connects this to the spirituality of the feast day, specifically the revelation of Christ to the Gentiles. Heckenkamp then reflects on Simeon's prophecy of a soul piercing Mary's heart, drawing parallels to the suffering of both Mary and Mother Marianna. She emphasizes the message of accepting daily life and offering it up as a sacrifice, imitating the example of Mary and Mother Marianna. Brother Andre Marie then begins a new thought, transitioning the conversation.

Action Items and Devotion from the Apparition (00:31:52 - 00:34:08)

Brother Andre Marie inquires about specific actions or "to-do items" arising from the apparition, beyond general advice on suffering and maintaining a devout life. Kathleen Heckenkamp interprets the message as a response to the Church hierarchy's negligence in revealing the Fatima secret. Our Lady, bypassing the hierarchy, revealed the secret to Mother Mariana, promising that Mother Mariana's name would become synonymous with hers in the 20th century, accompanied by a great devotion and a statue for the consolation of the faithful. This devotion, intended for a humble faith, is predicted to be rejected by many who believe they possess all the knowledge. The devotion is presented as a means of maintaining faith during challenging times.

Personal Experiences and the Importance of the Devotion (00:34:08 - 00:35:23)

Kathleen Heckenkamp shares her personal experiences with the devotion, recounting an instance where a priest dismissed it during a sermon while her relatives were present. She emphasizes that the devotion provides consolation and helps maintain faith, particularly during difficult times. She connects the devotion to Fatima, suggesting that Our Lady of Good Success encourages a return to traditional Catholic practices like the rosary, First Saturdays, and First Fridays. Heckenkamp believes the devotion strengthens Catholic faith and encourages adherence to traditional practices, noting that the people of Quito were devout Catholics who practiced their faith diligently. She concludes by describing the devotion as a catechism, highlighting its emphasis on the sacraments and their importance in the face of potential profanation.

The Role of the Guiding Figure (00:35:24 - 00:35:51)

Kathleen Heckenkamp discusses the symbolic role of  Our Lady depicted holding a crosier, suggesting she acts as a guide, similar to a bishop who shepherds his flock. She notes that the bishops of our time have seemingly abandoned their role, leaving a need for this guiding figure. Brother Andre Marie agrees, adding that the crosier signifies the abbess's authority within the monastery.

Details of the Pilgrimage (00:35:51 - 00:36:57)

Brother Andre Marie raises a question about the activities during the pilgrimage, prompting Kathleen Heckenkamp to describe the process. Pilgrims arrive early, around 4 am, and gather in the church. Kathleen explains her role in distributing holy cards, particularly to the poor, before the pilgrims organize themselves by gender for the procession. The description ends mid-sentence.

The Rosary of the Dawn Procession in Quito (00:36:57 - 00:38:54)

Kathleen Heckenkamp describes the Rosary of the Dawn procession in Quito, Ecuador. The procession begins with participants saying the rosary before leaving, followed by honor guards carrying a smaller statue and banners. The procession moves through the historical area of Quito, stopping at various churches to pray. The procession continues until sunrise, with fireworks and a band accompanying the crowd. Heckenkamp notes the surprising lack of complaints from residents despite the noise and the deeply prayerful atmosphere. Brother Andre Marie confirms the positive experiences of his parents and a priest friend, Father Rudolf Greger, who participated in the pilgrimage. Heckenkamp mentions that a priest always celebrated the Latin Mass during their pilgrimages.

Mass in Quito and the New Bishop's Restrictions (00:38:54 - 00:40:16)

Kathleen Heckenkamp recounts past experiences celebrating Mass at the tomb of Mother Mary in Quito, describing a fragrant miracle of lilies emanating from the tomb after one Mass. She notes that this was during Phil's first pilgrimage. However, she explains that the current bishop has banned Latin Mass in historical Quito, a recent change from the previous bishop's more lenient approach. While Mass can still be held if a priest is available, it's restricted to locations outside of historical sites, such as hotel rooms. Kathleen mentions that the nuns were always welcoming to them, and she hasn't visited since 2018 due to COVID. Brother Andre Marie comments that the bishop's ban must be a recent development, which Kathleen confirms.

Family Matters and Departure (00:40:16 - 00:40:50)

Kathleen Heckenkamp explains her and her husband's decision to pause their trips to Quito.. They are now guardians of their five-year-old grandson and are returning home due to concerns about their age and some unsettling mail they received. Kathleen mentions that her husband was worried, and she wants to alleviate his concerns by being at home. She leaves open the possibility of returning if things settle down.

Ecclesiastical Approval of the Coronation (00:40:50 - 00:42:00)

Brother Andre Marie brings up a priest who spoke negatively about the coronation. He then clarifies that the coronation has documented ecclesiastical approval, emphasizing its unambiguous and complete approval by the Church. Kathleen Heckenkamp confirms this, stating that the statue's canonical coronation in 1991 by Monsignor Antonio Gonzalez, the Archbishop of Quito, implies papal recognition. She explains that a canonical coronation requires awareness and approval from the Church.

Quito Marian Sanctuary Declaration (00:42:00 - 00:43:33)

Kathleen Heckenkamp discusses the declaration of the Marian sanctuary in Quito, Ecuador, on January 7th, 1991, by the Archbishop of Quito. The declaration was based on a continuous devotion spanning at least 380 years by 1991, exceeding the required 100 years. She recounts the miraculous creation of the statue in 1610, where three archangels completed the painting while the artist was absent. Upon his return, the artist found the statue finished and the bishop, upon witnessing it, declared it miraculous. The statue's consecration with oils followed the next year. The bishop's testimony and the long-standing devotion supported the 1991 declaration.

Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres Canonization Process (00:43:35 - 00:45:19)

Kathleen Heckenkamp clarifies that the discussion concerns Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres, whose canonization process began in 1986. She explains that Mother Mariana has been declared "venerable." Heckenkamp details that a commission was formed to study archival materials related to Mother Mariana, including prophecies and a statue. However, the process faced challenges due to the loss or disappearance of key original documents, including the Cuadarnon, creating intrigue and ongoing news stories. Heckenkamp maintains contact in Quito to stay updated on the situation.

The Status of Mother Mariana's Canonization (00:45:19 - 00:46:56)

Kathleen Heckenkamp discusses the stalled canonization process of Mother Marianne. A Franciscan decision previously halted the process. Recent attempts to reopen the cause require funding, which has not yet been secured. Mother Angelita, involved in the process, is hesitant to discuss it. Heckenkamp believes the timing isn't right yet, suggesting Divine intervention is at play. Interestingly, Mother Mariana's prophecies, as noted by the postulator in his book, are said to be unfolding, with some predictions extending into the mid-21st century, including potentially her canonization.

Mother Mariana's Prophecies and Their Significance (00:46:57 - 00:47:13)

Brother Andre Marie connects the previous discussion to Kathleen Heckenkamp's article. He highlights Mother Marianne's accurate prophecies as evidence supporting her cause for canonization. The prophecies' fulfillment serves as a testament to her credibility and strengthens the case for her sainthood.

Fulfilled Prophecies and Marian Dogmas (00:47:17 - 00:48:09)

Brother Andre Marie discusses specific prophecies related to the 20th century, focusing on the definitions of the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption under a Pope who was a prisoner, events he considers fulfilled prophecies. He highlights the rarity of such papal definitions, making these predictions less predictable.

Challenges and Opposition to Quito Apparitions (00:48:09 - 00:49:11)

Kathleen Heckenkamp mentions recent opposition and naysayers in Quito, questioning the apparitions' authenticity. She notes Our Lady's response to this skepticism, emphasizing a simple, humble faith. Heckenkamp believes this opposition indicates an approaching restoration, with Our Lady's intervention ("revealing her hand") and the release of notebooks. She attributes the opposition to the devil's attempts to hinder devotion to Our Lady, even referencing the title change as a point of contention.

Translation and Recommended Resources for Our Lady of Good Success (00:49:12 - 00:50:58)

Kathleen Heckenkamp discussed her concerns regarding the translation of "Our Lady of the Good Event" and consulted an old priest. She explained that she believes "the good event" refers to the restoration but didn't feel she had the authority to change the established translation, especially given over 100 years of usage as "Our Lady of Good Success" in approved books. Brother Andre Marie clarified this long-standing English translation. Kathleen confirmed this, stating that she and Marianne Horvat chose to use the translation approved by the postulator for the cause. Brother Andre Marie noted that Marianne, fluent in Portuguese (a language closely related to Spanish), would be knowledgeable on the matter. The conversation concluded with Brother Andre Marie suggesting that those seeking further information visit ourladygoodsuccess.com, which would also be linked on reconquest.net. He then asked Kathleen for book recommendations for those wanting an overview of Our Lady of Good Success, to which she responded that there are a couple of good ones.

Available Books and Novenas on Mother Mariana (00:50:58 - 00:52:19)

Kathleen Heckenkamp discusses various books about Mother Mariana, starting with *Prophecies for a Times* (around 50 pages), followed by the more detailed *The Admirable Life of Mother Mariana*, Volumes 1 and 2. She also mentions *Chiesa Viva*, an Italian magazine translated into English titled *Our Lady Condemns Masonry*, noting a disagreement with Father Villa about the title's directness. Regarding novenas, she describes a red novena from 1906 and a gold one from 1941, recommending the first, which she received from the Mother Abbess, although both are considered excellent. All these materials are available on her website.

Pilgrimage Information (00:52:20 - 00:52:41)

Brother Andre Marie confirms that the mentioned books will be linked on their website. He inquires about American pilgrimage groups visiting Mother Mariana's site, mentioning a past involvement of an SSPX priest in leading such pilgrimages, and notes that Kathleen Heckenkamp is no longer leading them.

Quito Pilgrimage and Mother Mariana de Jesus (00:52:46 - 00:54:22)

Kathleen Heckenkamp discusses the possibility of a pilgrimage to Quito to see the miraculous statue of Our Lady of Good Success, explaining that May and October are the best months due to her availability. She clarifies that the miraculous statue, as Mother Abbess, is mostly in the cloister except for specific periods like the Feast Day (February 2nd) and nine days starting on January 24th. Brother Andre Marie inquires about the statue's placement and the miraculous statue's cloister confinement, particularly during COVID when she was sequestered for several years. The conversation then shifts to available books on Mother Maryanda de Jesus, specifically "Admirable Life of Mother Mariana," which Kathleen confirms are available and will be linked on their website by Brother Andre Marie. Finally, Kathleen mentions promoting devotion to the Holy Faith and offers resources for anyone needing information.

Closing Remarks and Sign-off (00:54:23 - 00:54:53)

Brother Andre Marie thanked Kathleen Heckenkamp for her time and hoped the listeners gained an overview of her apostolate and the message of Our Lady of Good Success. Kathleen expressed her appreciation for the opportunity and hoped the discussion would be beneficial. Brother Andre Marie concluded by identifying the program as Reconquest on the Crusade Radio Network, offering a final blessing.